Comments on: The Way Too Long Review of The Rise & Fall of WCW: Disc Two http://wrestling.insidepulse.com/2009/09/04/the-way-too-long-review-of-the-rise-fall-of-wcw-disc-two/ Wrestling news, rumors, reviews and commentary, from WWE to TNA to ROH and everything in between... Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:47:47 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: James http://wrestling.insidepulse.com/2009/09/04/the-way-too-long-review-of-the-rise-fall-of-wcw-disc-two/comment-page-1/#comment-11015 James Mon, 07 Sep 2009 17:01:45 +0000 http://wrestling.insidepulse.com/?p=90836#comment-11015 I kind of figured that much about the '90s set (that it would be seen on PPV). How about the blurred middle fingers in the SS98 match (an "extra")? "It’s likely due to the fact that the last two ECW sets (Blood Sport and Extreme Rules) bombed pretty significantly." ...both of which I think came after WWECW was launched. Coincidence? You decide ;-) Seriously, though, I didn't mean another all-ECW disc. I mean would it hurt compilations to use a few matches from them? I kind of figured that much about the ’90s set (that it would be seen on PPV). How about the blurred middle fingers in the SS98 match (an “extra”)?

“It’s likely due to the fact that the last two ECW sets (Blood Sport and Extreme Rules) bombed pretty significantly.”

…both of which I think came after WWECW was launched. Coincidence? You decide ;-)

Seriously, though, I didn’t mean another all-ECW disc. I mean would it hurt compilations to use a few matches from them?

]]> By: Charlie Reneke http://wrestling.insidepulse.com/2009/09/04/the-way-too-long-review-of-the-rise-fall-of-wcw-disc-two/comment-page-1/#comment-11007 Charlie Reneke Mon, 07 Sep 2009 05:09:43 +0000 http://wrestling.insidepulse.com/?p=90836#comment-11007 "My question is, if this is so, then why was there censoring in the ’90s set, apparently?" People keep bringing this up. I think there was some black-and-white stuff in the feature documentary, and I'm guessing that's because the documentaries created to be aired on pay per view. Remember, the matches that come with these sets are considered 'extra features'. "And why is there a moratorium on classic ECW, or so it seems?" It's likely due to the fact that the last two ECW sets (Blood Sport and Extreme Rules) bombed pretty significantly. “My question is, if this is so, then why was there censoring in the ’90s set, apparently?”

People keep bringing this up. I think there was some black-and-white stuff in the feature documentary, and I’m guessing that’s because the documentaries created to be aired on pay per view. Remember, the matches that come with these sets are considered ‘extra features’.

“And why is there a moratorium on classic ECW, or so it seems?”

It’s likely due to the fact that the last two ECW sets (Blood Sport and Extreme Rules) bombed pretty significantly.

]]> By: James http://wrestling.insidepulse.com/2009/09/04/the-way-too-long-review-of-the-rise-fall-of-wcw-disc-two/comment-page-1/#comment-11006 James Mon, 07 Sep 2009 03:51:43 +0000 http://wrestling.insidepulse.com/?p=90836#comment-11006 "And for those of you curious, NO, blood is not censored in this set. I’m told that blood censoring will likely not happen in DVD format and that any set that could potentially show a lot of gore, such as a War Games set, will carry a higher rating. So fear not, your War Games set or the next Flair set that will come out as sure as the tide will come in will not cut to black-and-white whenever someone blades." My question is, if this is so, then why was there censoring in the '90s set, apparently? And why is there a moratorium on classic ECW, or so it seems? “And for those of you curious, NO, blood is not censored in this set. I’m told that blood censoring will likely not happen in DVD format and that any set that could potentially show a lot of gore, such as a War Games set, will carry a higher rating. So fear not, your War Games set or the next Flair set that will come out as sure as the tide will come in will not cut to black-and-white whenever someone blades.”

My question is, if this is so, then why was there censoring in the ’90s set, apparently? And why is there a moratorium on classic ECW, or so it seems?

]]> By: Michael L http://wrestling.insidepulse.com/2009/09/04/the-way-too-long-review-of-the-rise-fall-of-wcw-disc-two/comment-page-1/#comment-10975 Michael L Sat, 05 Sep 2009 22:23:50 +0000 http://wrestling.insidepulse.com/?p=90836#comment-10975 Good calls, although to call this the best single-disc that the WWF/E has ever put out is a bit of an exaggeration, especially considering the greatness of Disc 2 of Flair's first DVD set. That disc feature Flair/Steamboat at Clash of Champions, Wrestlewar, and Flair/Funk also at the Clash. All matches are at 5 stars, are among the most epic matches of the 80's, if not all time. I also think you highly underrate Sting/Vader. Sting turned into shit in the late 90's, but in his early to mid 90's prime, he was awesome. And Vader was arguably Sting's best opponent (with Flair being the only other contender). The two worked the big/little man formula about as well as it can be worked. The GAB 92 was their first major match, and it was solid, although not as awesome as some that have followed. I'd say that match was at least 3 1/2 stars, with them having 4 star matches to follow (especially their Superbrawl 3 strap match). Good calls, although to call this the best single-disc that the WWF/E has ever put out is a bit of an exaggeration, especially considering the greatness of Disc 2 of Flair’s first DVD set. That disc feature Flair/Steamboat at Clash of Champions, Wrestlewar, and Flair/Funk also at the Clash. All matches are at 5 stars, are among the most epic matches of the 80’s, if not all time.

I also think you highly underrate Sting/Vader. Sting turned into shit in the late 90’s, but in his early to mid 90’s prime, he was awesome. And Vader was arguably Sting’s best opponent (with Flair being the only other contender). The two worked the big/little man formula about as well as it can be worked. The GAB 92 was their first major match, and it was solid, although not as awesome as some that have followed. I’d say that match was at least 3 1/2 stars, with them having 4 star matches to follow (especially their Superbrawl 3 strap match).

]]> By: Charlie Reneke http://wrestling.insidepulse.com/2009/09/04/the-way-too-long-review-of-the-rise-fall-of-wcw-disc-two/comment-page-1/#comment-10961 Charlie Reneke Sat, 05 Sep 2009 06:56:26 +0000 http://wrestling.insidepulse.com/?p=90836#comment-10961 "Plus that R’n'Rs-MX match wasn’t even close to a five star match compared to their earlier outings." Well I made a point of saying that with these compilation DVDs each match has to stand out on it's own because you can't tell someone to go pick up a non-existent DVD that has a better version of the same feud on it. Yes, they had better matches, but you're not getting ripped off here. On everything else, wrestling is really subjective and one man's trash is another man's treasure. Most people like the Vader/Sting series. I did not. "completely buried the Sting-Rude match" Well yeah. They botched several fundamental spots and kept up a horrible pace through-out that killed the crowd. It was vicious. At least with Dusty/Windham they worked with the claw spot and did more then lay on the canvas. “Plus that R’n’Rs-MX match wasn’t even close to a five star match compared to their earlier outings.”

Well I made a point of saying that with these compilation DVDs each match has to stand out on it’s own because you can’t tell someone to go pick up a non-existent DVD that has a better version of the same feud on it. Yes, they had better matches, but you’re not getting ripped off here.

On everything else, wrestling is really subjective and one man’s trash is another man’s treasure. Most people like the Vader/Sting series. I did not.

“completely buried the Sting-Rude match”

Well yeah. They botched several fundamental spots and kept up a horrible pace through-out that killed the crowd. It was vicious. At least with Dusty/Windham they worked with the claw spot and did more then lay on the canvas.

]]> By: Mark Allen http://wrestling.insidepulse.com/2009/09/04/the-way-too-long-review-of-the-rise-fall-of-wcw-disc-two/comment-page-1/#comment-10958 Mark Allen Sat, 05 Sep 2009 06:41:42 +0000 http://wrestling.insidepulse.com/?p=90836#comment-10958 Charlie, I have to disagree with on some of your ratings here. I feel you are on with the Southern Boys and Steiners tag matches and Ric-Ricky, but you vastly underrated the Sting-Vader match, completely buried the Sting-Rude and way overrated the Hogan-Flair and Dusty-Windham matches. Plus that R'n'Rs-MX match wasn't even close to a five star match compared to their earlier outings. That being said, good review. Charlie, I have to disagree with on some of your ratings here. I feel you are on with the Southern Boys and Steiners tag matches and Ric-Ricky, but you vastly underrated the Sting-Vader match, completely buried the Sting-Rude and way overrated the Hogan-Flair and Dusty-Windham matches. Plus that R’n'Rs-MX match wasn’t even close to a five star match compared to their earlier outings. That being said, good review.

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