The SmarK Rant for TNA Impact! – January 4, 2010
"Time For a Change"
- Live from Orlando, FL.
- Your hosts are Tenay & Tazz.
- Since I get Spike and not the Score (the channel that carries RAW in Canada), curiosity got the best of me and I decided to watch Impact tonight, because I figure a spectacular trainwreck is just as good as a great show as far as entertainment value goes. We shall see.
- Did you hear that Hulk Hogan is on the show tonight?
- Before the show, Bubba the Love Sponge ("One of the biggest names in satellite radio!" they declare, which is like the old joke about winning gold at the Special Olympics) interviews moron fans about what they want to see from the "new" TNA. They want to see extreme action and blood, just like when Hulk Hogan was wrestling! Note to TNA: Don’t talk to your "fans" outside the free arena, talk to people who pay money to watch the product.
Steel Asylum match: Homicide v. Kiyoshi v. Jay Lethal v. Consequences Creed v. Alex Shelley v. Chris Sabin v. Suicide v. Amazing Red
So this is basically an escape-the-cage match with a roof on it and eight guys, which is immediately an illustration of the problems with TNA and their horribly complicated stipulation matches. Another problem, a much bigger one, is that you can’t tell what the fuck is going on because the cage obscures the camera. So I’m left to wonder why Homicide doesn’t just kill Suicide so that they’ll both be happy? So yeah, it goes about 3 minutes and everyone hits some highspots but god knows who’s who, and Homicide suddenly breaks out a baton and it’s a NO CONTEST?!? What the holy fuck was that? Crowd chants "This is bullshit" and I have to agree. 1/2* But then Jeff Hardy runs out of the crowd (complete with entrance music) and brawls with Homicide. Bet WWE is happy about that after promoting his new DVD set.
Meanwhile, Hulk is ON THE WAY. He’s booking the show, wouldn’t he be in the building yet?
Meanwhile, Big Kev talks about Hulk mentored him into becoming the smartest man in wrestling. He’s also the only guy for a long time to get to finish a promo without interruption.
TNA Knockouts Title: Tara v. ODB
We have no real explanation of who either person is for newer fans, although I guess former WWE fans might know Tara. I really have no idea who the audience they’re aiming for is, because lapsed 80s fans stopped watching before she became a star as Victoria. Anyway, ODB attacks and runs into an elbow, and Tara follows with a clothesline out of the corner. They slug it out and Tara gets the enuzigiri and jigglesault for two. Tara-ntula and slingshot legdrop gets two. ODB rolls her up with a handful of tights out of nowhere for the pin and the title, however, at 3:30. They cut away during the pin, lest any butt crack offend delicate viewers. 1/2*
Meanwhile, RIC FLAIR. I would not have bet on that one.
Meanwhile, Mick Foley ignores the corporate memo (what a rebel!) and tries to get into the building, but security stands in his way…so he backs down. I guess he’ll send a strongly worded e-mail instead.
Bobby Lashley joins us, and his wife does the talking, calling wrestling fans "inbred toothless degenerates". Jeez, go watch some old Rick Rude promos and learn from the best. Anyway, Bobby wants out of TNA so he can go make real money doing MMA. Yes, the angle is that the guy doesn’t want to be here.
Meanwhile, the Beautiful People play strip poker in an angle that doesn’t go anywhere.
Hulk Hogan is still coming! I bet he shows up at the top of the hour.
Meanwhile, Scott Hall and Sean Waltman are NOT on the "the list", and thus can’t get in. They’re like some sort of people on the outside…OUTSIDERS if you will. Spoiler: They get in anyway.
Meanwhile, WHERE’S THE FUCKING WRESTLING? Sorry, got distracted there.
Meanwhile, someone exits one limo and enters another one. Seriously.
Finally, Hulk Hogan is here, right as RAW is starting. It’s the usual "TNA is gonna be the #1 company in the world" rhetoric, and before we get to the point, the Wolfpac tries to jump the rail. At least they don’t have entrance music like Jeff Hardy did. Hulk lets them into the ring and decides to let Scott Hall cut a promo on live TV. Hall is here for the party, brother, but Hulk chastises them for that sort of attitude, and declares that it’s time to grow up and "do the right thing for business." What? Can I get some sort of carny-to-English dictionary to decode this bullshit segment? Big Kev joins the has been party and tries to call off his buddies, but Hulk’s all "We’re here for change, and I’m not playing a role, brother." Again, what the fuck are they talking about? And now Uncle Eric joins us on Hulk’s side, nothing that everyone has to earn their spot. Change, change, change. Eric even rips up the format sheet! NOT THE FORMAT SHEET! How will the announcers know who is running in through the crowd? So I guess Bischoff was the guy who changed from one limo to the other, but we wouldn’t know because NO ONE EVER MENTIONED IT AGAIN. What a bullshit waste of 20 minutes this segment was.
TNA Knockouts Tag title: Sarita & Taylor Wilde v. Awesome Kong & Hamada
Really? They "tear up the format sheet" and this survives? I don’t know who any of these people are and they made no effort to educate me. Hamada and Sarita exchange some armdrags, and Wilde comes in for more of the same. Kong levels both champs but they rally and dropkick her out of the ring. Double dive and we take a break. REALLY? For THIS match? Back with Hamada suplexing Wilde for two, and the heels pound on her. She comes back with a codebreaker on Kong and tags Sarita to no reaction. They all botch some spots and Kong sits on Sarita for two. Crowd chants "This is Awesome." Well it’s accurate in that Awesome Kong is competing. Hamada dropkicks Sarita into a Kong powerbomb to give them the titles at 9:29. Sloppy but decent. ** Is this really who they want to focus on during their big show?
Meanwhile, Sean Morley (playing Val Venis, but DON’T CALL HIM THAT) joins the poker game. Luckily he brought his own deck. And that’s all we hear about this for the rest of the night.
Meanwhile, Foley still can’t get in. Neither can the Nasty Boys. And yet they’re already on TV, so…never mind, my brain hurts as it is.
Raven & Dr. Stevie v. Matt Morgan & Hernandez
Morgan pins Stevie with the big boot about 30 seconds in. DUD
Meanwhile, Pope D’Angelo is interrupted by ORLANDO JORDAN. He’s apparently so big a star that no one mentions who he is or where he’s from until after the segment, when Tazz clarifies that in fact it was Orlando Jordan. This show makes me want to bash my head into the keyboard.
Desmond Wolfe v. Pope D’Angelo Dinero
Wolfe works the arm and tosses Pope around, and does a nice arm submission on the mat to stretch him. Pope comes back with an elbow out of the corner and finishes with a fluke rollup at 3:00. Wow, they didn’t do anything to introduce Wolfe, and then beat him in a meaningless TV match with a fluke finish. *
Meanwhile, Rhino has been attacked by a mystery person. Perhaps the format sheet, out for revenge.
Oh, and Jeff Jarrett is wandering around too.
Meanwhile, AJ Styles talks about wrestling Kurt Angle at the PPV, but is interrupted by Eric, who informs that he defends against Kurt…TONIGHT.
Jeff Jarrett makes his return for more talking on a show already overflowing with it. He puts over the homegrown TNA talent and says anything can happen, but Hulk interrupts. And now he’s playing heel, pointing out that Jeff drove the company into the ground until Dixie Carter saved it. And that’s a shoot, brother. Jeff also has to prove himself. Great, Mr. Hogan v. Stone Cold JJ.
Meanwhile, Daniels gets interrupted by JB. Can’t ANYONE finish their promo tonight? Mick wants a meeting with Hulk.
Abyss v. Samoa Joe
See, it was supposed to be Abyss v. Rhino (and was advertised as such at the beginning of the show), but Bischoff TORE UP THE FORMAT SHEET (plus Rhino was attacked, which they never mentioned again anyway) and now we’ve got this. The announcers put Joe over like a big babyface star, but I thought he was a heel? Joe slugs away in the corner and adds the facewash, but runs into a boot. Joe bails and grabs a chair, but misses and hits the post. Vince would probably stop the show and order the doctor to stitch up the ringpost, but this is TNA and WE WRESTLE. Allegedly. Back in, Joe boots Abyss down and gets a senton for two. Abyss tries a chokeslam, and then goes with a sideslam instead for two. Joe comes back with a kick off the middle rope, and they slug it out and both go down. Abyss recovers first with a chokeslam for two. Joe grabs the chair again, nails Abyss behind the ref’s back, and chokes him out at 4:52. This seemed like the same old TNA to me. *1/2
Meanwhile, Kristal demands a meeting with Hulk on behalf of Bobby Lashley, thus interrupting Bischoff’s discussion with a director. Why would Bischoff even be on camera for this segment? And how am I supposed to care about all the people who want a meeting with Hulk when there’s 300 simultaneous angles happening at the same time?
Meanwhile, Beer Money is now out of the show. Who are Beer Money, asks the casual fan, and why do I care that they’ve been attacked? Hell if I’d know based on this.
Meanwhile, the Nasty Boys aren’t on the list, but Bubba the Love Sponge sneaks them in. Who gives a fuck about the fucking Nasty Boys in fucking 2010? SERIOUSLY.
Meanwhile, Kurt Angle gets to be the first person in about two hours to finish his promo.
Meanwhile, Jeff Hardy and Shannon Moore get mobbed by three teenage girls. That’s their mob, three people. They can’t even paper their mobs properly.
Meanwhile, the Nasty Boys cause trouble. OK, so we’ve spent three segments establishing that the Nasty Boys can’t get in, and then they do get in, and now they’re throwing donuts around. That’s how they earned their money tonight.
TNA World title: AJ Styles v. Kurt Angle
Finally, some wrestling! They work off a headlock to start and AJ dropkicks him out and follows with a tope con hilo. Back in, the masked man runs in and attacks both guys, but Angle gets rid of him and he’s never mentioned again. This company…I….never mind, back to the match. Angle powerbombs AJ into the corner and we take a break. Back with Angle holding a chinlock, but AJ fights out, then runs into a boot. He fires off a backbreaker before selling it, though. AJ springboards in, but Angle catches him with an overhead suplex. AJ clotheslines him for two. Crowd notes "This is wrestling." Well spotted, geniuses. Angle with the rolling germans, but AJ gets the Pele, which Angle counters into the anklelock, but AJ rolls him up for two. Great stuff. Another Pele gets two. AJ misses a blind charge and Kurt gets the Angle slam for two. AJ springboards in with a flying forearm and goes up, but the pop-up superplex gets two. AJ with the Styles Clash for two. They fight on top and Angle gets a frog splash for two. Styles reverses the Angle Slam into a DDT for two. Angle comes back with an anklelock, but Styles reverses out. Angle suplex gets two. AJ with the springboard DDT for two. AJ goes up, but Angle gets a top rope Angle Slam for two. Anklelock, but AJ reverses into an enzuigiri and Styles Clash for two. Another one is countered into the heel hook and Angle is gonna win…but Ric Flair comes out and does nothing. AJ escapes and gets a springboard 450 for two. And we take a break. Back with Flair leaving and another Styles Clash, and the 450 finishes at 22:00 as AJ retains in a tremendous TV match. ****1/2 Well, 1 out of 180 segments isn’t bad, I guess.
And finally, we discover that NWO 2K10 was the ones attacking everyone all along, and Mick Foley gets laid out by them as well, as we discover that Hogan’s idea of fresh and new = Nitro from 1996 without any of the star power.
Wow. What a colossal waste of three hours this show was, minus the great main event, and it did nothing to make me care about watching further. They introduced two big surprises who did nothing and played no role, brought in the usual cast of Hogan flunkies who also did nothing, and almost all of the in-ring stuff sucked ass. Thumbs way down on the "new era" of TNA, as it seems frighteningly close to the old era.
BEST…RANT…EVER!
This sounds like the WWE episode of South Park last season. Good rant, though.
Second best rant ever
Best rant ever belongs to ken anderson who covered PPVs back in 2006, for is rant on december to dismember
Keep in mind: What was the last thing to seriously challenge Vince? N… W… O…
Not crazy about it in the least, but facts be facts — they’re resurrecting the NWO with all the same faces because that’s the only way Vince ever got beat in the Wars to begin with!
Thanks you TNA for allowing THIS Scott Keith to return. Whoo!
tna was way more exciting than raw. outsiders will take over! hogan has done a great job and the war has begun!! best tna ever!!!!Say Hello to the Bad Guy!
I actually miss the old TNA already. Bad as it was, it was kind of campy and all the young talent got to wrestle. Tonight, only Hamada/Kong vs. Sarita/Taylor and Angle-AJ did anything worthwhile in the ring.
Is that enough to build on? Not really. But here’s hoping they learn their lesson. I hope a Cena-less Raw clobbers TNA in the ratings to the point where they decide to just start from scratch already.
My favorite was the promo of God Knows Who saying TNA can really get going now that Hogan is here.
Cause…really?
Your company that’s been around for almost a decade now couldn’t do anything until the big name famous from another company almost 30 years ago? That’s the message you’re sending and expect me to give a shit that you couldn’t figure shit out until THAT? After already picking up the current WWE cast-offs?
The only REMOTELY big thing TNA did was sign Jeff Hardy, but that was still pretty bland. The only reason picking up WWE talent worked for WCW was because at the time it was shocking, and pretty much stealing active talent. TNA is just picking up talent that’s been intentionally let go already.
Other than that the entire show was TNA begging for attention saying “LOOK HOW COOL WE ARE AND WWE SUCKS!”(note to TNA: Telling me how you’re going to beat the #1 guy just reminds me you’re #2) and making bunch of god awful “smart” angles, to try showing how edgy they are, and it was just completely pathetic.
keep an eye on the young up-and-comers that we saw tonight…i think they are going places; hall, nash, hogan, nobbs, saggs, venis, jordan, moore, sting, waltman, a love sponge, bischoff, flair…look out 2010 cuz TNA’s new batch of stars is on the rise! i’m excited to see where these careers go from here…
So is this show what Eric Bischoff was handcuffed from doing by Time Warner? So essentially – a fake strip poker game?
This guy is a WWE mark totally. Raw is so much worse than Impact, last night all Raw had was Bret Hart, nothing else was good on the show.
I haven’t gotten to watch RAW yet, as I was doing the live recap of iMPACT, but I can tell you, even if that was an ordinary episode of RAW, it was better than what TNA put out.
Clearly, there are only four logical ways to blow off the feud between the format sheet and Hogan/Bischoff:
1) The format sheet comes back in a year under a biker gimmick. Once that gets stale, the format sheet loses a Buried Alive match against Bischoff, only to return under its Deadman persona.
2) The format sheet returns in a year wearing crow facepaint and a trench coat, coming down from the rafters and attacking foes with a baseball bat. But the format sheet never speaks. Feud culminates with a PPV match against Hogan.
3) Format sheet returns as the mystery entrant in the King of the Mountain match. In a swerve to end all swerves, Hogan and Bischoff assist the format sheet in winning its first TNA World Heavyweight Title.
4) We act as if nothing ever happened. Format sheet immediately gets transitioned into a feud with Abyss that culminates in some form of gimmick hardcore match (Barb Wire Massacre, probably).
did this guy just call scott keith a wwe mark? LOL!!!!
Spectacular rant.
The best part of Impact was laughing at how fat, puffy and bloated Scott Hall looked.
I also can’t believe that the only defense for this show people are using is “wwe was worse”
Great rant. Said everything I thought while putting myself through that complete fuckfest, and I’m a TNA fan (hate WWE with a passion). I saw the last 15mins of Raw, and it sucked as per usual. But, it didn’t suck as much as Nitro, sorry I mean Impact. When I saw Val Venis, Nasty Boys and Orlando Jordan I wanted to explode. I went through Russo and Hogan destroying WCW from within 10 years ago. I don’t want to go through the same thing with TNA considering their roster can actually wrestle, but what do you expect when you have WCW guys running the company, from Jeff Jarrett to Hogan to Terry Taylor. It was bound to fail spectacularly eventually. All the genuine excitement I had for a good night went out of the window 2 minutes into the Steel Asylum match. You couldn’t even enjoy the main event because of the damn commercials.
Never before has TNA shot themselves in the foot with as much velocity as last night. Every single segment screamed “late WCW”, from the nWo reuniting in a 20-minute segment (again) and the fourth wall constantly being broken (Again) and the back-asswards logic and booking (AGAIN) and the whole ideal in general of “We’re gonna be different from WWE by bringing in people who used to be in WWE.”
…==AGAIN.==
In the weeks leading up to yesterday, I kept saying that, in some way, whether it be from WWE or TNA, that we were gonna have a catastrophe on our hands.
I’m not the kinda guy to say “I told you so,” but…
I’ve been a fan of yours Scott for a while now; this was truthful and humorous. Great work.
Honestly, Keith, your opinions are a bit hard to take because you’ve classically been very “Anti-TNA”.
Though I don’t disagree with a lot of your assessment here, I have a feeling that you’ve never given the product a fair shake (since they didn’t fold in the first few weeks, which you predicted in EVERY SINGLE COLUMN YOU WROTE ABOUT TNA in 2002).
Even during their “heyday” of 2005, when they were DESTROYING WWE in quality, you would barely give them a nod, still holding onto the idea that they would fold any day.
And if there’s one thing Scott Keith doesn’t like, it’s being proven wrong.
So, yeah, while the first hour was pretty bad, the show picked up quality slowly but surely ending with a killer main event.
Do I think bringing NWO 2010 is a good idea? No. Will I stop watching if they start to dominate? I sure as hell will — I stopped for all of 2007 and half of 2008 when the booking was atrocious.
However, do I think this show was a failure? No, not really. It’s all where they go from here. Hopefully, the whole NWO/Old Guys crap is very short-lived. I assume that’s where they’re going, and hope I’m proven right.
Does that mean I expect a fair, unbiased review from Scott Keith, even if their booking lives up to my hopes?
Nope. Because, no matter how good they get, it will NEVER make up for the fact that they proved him wrong.
Man, it really is just like 1996 all over again! Scott Keith complaining, and wondering where the wrestling is. You hated it the first time around, when it was called WCW, Keith, so I expected nothing more than your “biting” sarcasm, and more of the same old stuff you’ve always delivered.
No longer funny, you come off like a bitter loser who writes about stuff he hates. It’s funny, just as I tuned into TNA last night before RAW to see if it would be entertaining (which it was), I decided to check out the Pulse for the first time in years and see if anyone covered the shows. I was surprised when I saw you were still here, until I read this drivel. Everything old is new again, from Bret Hart, to Hulkster and NWO, to ol’ NetCop. I won’t tell you to go away, but I definitely will.
RAW was like every other RAW, there was nothing new about it. Even Bret Hart’s triumphant return landed with a thud, because everyone remembers now that Hitman has NO personality. TNA on the other hand, is WCW, which, while not revolutionary, is certainly more entertaining at this point than watching paint dry.
i agree with the last two comments. why not give TNA a chance, it has better wrestling talent, top quality chain wrestling, submissions and classical wresling and is much better 2 watch. WWE is for kids so get your heads outa mcmahons wrinkly backside and appreciate quality.
also, n i may get blasted 4 it but heck
why hate nWo its excitin n hope it carrys on nuffin like gud ol nWo
nWo 4 life!
Neither show was good last night. Jim Cornette once said that gimmicks could be reused every 7 years. 2010 – 1996 = 14… we’re two cycles later.
I felt like I was watching the “relaunch” WCW show, when they “leveled the play field” and restarted the angles. Except… what, 10 years later? I understand that this gets the younger fans excited: most of us were as excited when Hall&Nash first appeared on Nitro. The problem is that the olders fans, like me, who have seen this before, are like: “wtf, man?”
I like wrestling AND sports-entertainment, and these days, I can’t get my fix, and TNA is not showing content I would pay to see. Neither is WWE.
Wait, who the hell is Orlando Jordan again? Seriously, the actor Orlando Jones I know, but who? What? So throw another on the WWF/WCW pile of tossed-aside stars that this show brought out to “change the wrestling landscape”
Honestly, considering the Beautiful People as one asset, and maybe calling Jay Lethal’s 2 year old act as half of a TNA “star”, this show still totaled almost 2-to-1 in has-beens and names from the big companies.
And, no, I’m not a WWE guy. In fact, I haven’t watched much wrestling in a couple of years at least. This show certainly didn’t make me excited for the future at all. In fact, having both shows bringing up works from 12 years ago does nothing for me. I’m not 19 anymore.
And way to make your crowd, during your biggest opening match ever, have to chant “This is bullshit!”, all for a pop at Jeff Hardy, drug addict? Really?… just brilliant. That had to be Russo, right?
And I match I was looking forward to, Raven & Dr. Stevie v. Matt Morgan & Hernandez… Freaking squash.
This is completely unprofessional.
Would you rather watch Hornswoggle and DX?
iMPACT! kicked Raw’s ass last night. And kicked it hard!
The rant was harsh but it made me laugh.. The show was harsher.. I consider myself a pure WRESTLING fan.. I watch every show I can and can’t get enough of it.. But with all the hype TNA put behind this show I was completely disappointed.. A pitiful start to a lackluster show is what TNA showed me.. And Raw seemed to be a build up for a WM match between Hart and McMahon.. (I know I’m right on that one).. As far saying either show sucks I won’t do it.. I will say TNA’s show was not worth the time I spent watching it.(other than AJ and Kurt,which mind you was squashed by the NWO gimmick).. Raw has been rather dull but once again if I thought it sucked I wouldn’t watch it at all.. Say what you will about the childish nature of the show (which doesn’t surprise me considering Vinnie Mac has grand kids watching) There is still talent there and DX is still funny.. Bret and Shawn didn’t have that real feel it should have but to be honest it was nice to see Bret again.. As it was nice to see Hall again.. Hogan and Bishoff I could always do without they seem to do nothing more than stroke each other’s egos.. They should just get the love fest on and get it over with.. They say competition breeds exellence and through the 90’s that was a fact.. Right now all I see is one company that is growing complacent and another company drinking the kool aid of two over rated men in industry.. What the wresting world needs now is another Paul Heyman..
bret hart was great for nostalgia but most of raw sucked just like most of impact sucked yes they have better wrestlers on impact but be damned if they know how to use them, instead of having a one on one or a triple threat x division match they put 8 guys in a clusterfuck red cage match, promo after promo after promo, overkill and seriously val “i was relevant 10 years ago” venis who cares, and lets not forget the fans who chant anything just to be obnoxious.
Actually, the best SK rant ever was the metaphysical one, which happened a long time before Inside Pulse.
To answer the person that posted thid:
“This is completely unprofessional.
Would you rather watch Hornswoggle and DX?”
Yes, I would actually. DX & Hornswoggle are least funny some of the time. TNA is so damn frustrating to watch. They have awesome talent but the writers just absolutely kill off any enjoyment to be had out of a TNA show. I check out an episode of TNA every 6 months or so to see if it’s gotten any better and I never make it past the 10 minute mark.
Nobody is saying you have to like TNA. They make plenty of screw-ups and they certainly aren’t as great as they could be. On the other hand, you admit to being entertained by Hornswaggle, and can’t get through ten minutes of TNA. Maybe the product just isn’t for you. Vince has his target demographic and TNA have theirs. Nothing wrong with that.
its running again tonight as a repeat.i decided to watch MAD MONEY with JIM CRAMER instead.its way more entertaining.at the time of the whole WCW vs WWF thing,it was exciting because we saw some things we had not seen before.now its the same old thing.i like TNA and want to see it kick WWEs but,so I hope they see this and take something from it they can use to turn things around before its too late.
What is it that time of the month? Someone dip your tampon in rubbing alcohol? Something definitely crawled up your backside and died because you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. Just because YOU don’t know someone doesn’t mean the mass majority doesn’t. But hell you’re a smark and you don’t know who ODB is? She was only in WWE development for like 2 years before joining TNA for the last year plus. And from your suggestions TNA is supposed to stop their program and explain to you specifically who everyone is because you haven’t been paying attention? If you don’t know who these people are tough noogies. The TNA fans do, and for the fans tuning in for the first time, they’ll get to learn who these people are in the ring not through exposition. And you think this is a bad thing? You claim to love wrestling? You don’t know who Orlando Jordan is even though he spent 3 years in WWE, you don’t know who Hamada is, which is understandable, but I would think as a self proclaimed wrestling fan you’d know the name Hamada. As in Gran Hamada. he only spent 20+ years in the business. TNA had 2 matches on free TV tonight that were better than any match WWE has put on free TV in the last year plus and you call the show crap? Well I got news for you. I’m sure TNA feels the same about you. This was a big show, and with all the people coming in, all the future plans and establishing what’s what, of course that lead to some lengthy segments. Like Hogan’s segment that you were so kind to lambaste, which happens to be the highest rated quarter hour in TNA history. Or Bischoff tearing up the match format, which in case you didn’t notice was to establish that he and Hogan are not on screen “Authority figures”. The show was far from perfect, this much is true. But when it comes to the fat that could be trimmed, wait for next week. They had story to tell this week. And enjoy the damn wrestling. Hell find me a single “Diva” that has wrestled in a match that’s even half as good as the knockouts tag team match last monday. Apparently you also didn’t notice the fan reactions either because while you were spewing your crap, the fans were cheering and/or booing, and it didn’t take someone yelling “excuse me” to get them to boo. Get rid of that chip on your shoulder and try again because in case you weren’t paying attention Vince and Bischoff summed it up for you at 11:02 PM proving a very simple point. TNA and their 4+ star match between AJ and Kurt Angle is greater than a punch to the nuts… which is exactly what Vinnie Mac gave us this week.
Ugh. I just can’t let this go. So furthermore why don’t you take a minute or to and let these angles actually pan out before you go slamming them. You say Jeff Hardy wasn’t a big pickup. Considering last time we saw him on WWE he told us we’d be seeing him again on WWE, it was at the very least a shocker. You say NWO’s taking over. Well, hearing the NWO style theme music I guess maybe I could understand, since it’s probably pretty hard to see what’s going on on screen with your head firmly lodged in the general location of your sphincter, but if you actually WATCHED the show you would notice that Hogan nixed the idea of a NWO reunion, and in the final segment when the former NWO members were beating the crap out of Foley, Hogan didn’t exactly look pleased. Yet here you are predicting the future and slamming them for it. Here’s some more news for you. All these guys you’re complaining about, Hall, Waltman, Morley, Nasty Boys, are all signed to short term contracts. So did it ever occur to you that they’re being brought in for recognizably as they put the TNA stars over? That these people are providing an excuse for people to watch while AJ and Angle make sure they tune in again next week? Of course it didn’t. And FYI not everyone who was ever released from WWE is “Talentless”. Orlando Jordan was released for no other reason than because WWE couldn’t come up with a storyline for him. Had nothing to do with talent or how over he is or isn’t, it was because WWE had a bloated roster at the time and someone had to go. He’s also the only person The Ultimate Warrior has wrestled in the last 10 years. That might mean nothing to you, but thankfully you don’t speak for all the fans. Elija Burke was also released from the WWE, and for those of us who have watched TNA week to week, we’ve come to discover he has more talent in his knees than WWE has on their entire roster. You talk about “has-beens” in comparison to the WWE? Shawn Michaels isn’t a hasbeen? Hell the whole reason they put Hornswoggle with DX is so they could do more backstage segments and less wrestling because come June Shawn’s going to need a wheelchair. Vince himself (once again) is trying to wrestle at 64 friggin years old. AND HE WAS NEVER A WRESTLER. Yet all of a sudden Hogan and Flair are too old to have a part in wrestling? They’re younger than Vince, and on top of that you don’t even know if they’re going to be wrestling. Flair looks to be taking on a manager role, and Hogan’s acting as the on air authority figure. “Has-been”? Guess that makes Bobby Heenan a has-been too since he was a wrestler before turning manager. Guess that makes Jessie Ventura a has-been for staying in wrestling past his wrestling years. Did you blast WWE just the same for using Ric Flair as recently as a year ago? I doubt it. So once again to sum it up, Hulk Hogan’s “terrible” speech in TNA was their highest rated segment ever. Bret Hart’s “Monumental” return garnered WWE’s lowest quarter hour of the night head-to-head. Guess you don’t know everything after all.
Wow, this last comment actually made me laugh from the surly attitude. It was like an old man shaking his stick at the kids in his yard.
To all the TNA fans who are screaming Monday’s show was amazing: no, it wasn’t. OK, from your prospective, possibly. You have been watching this show for a while, and I guess that means you like it. But for those of us diving in for the first time, it was awful. So because we have the internet, we’re supposed to know who has been in WWE developmental for (whatever) years? Seriously?
YES, numbnuts, you’re supposed to explain who the hell these people are to a degree if you’re going to have multiple people in a match on “opening night”! No, I don’t expect detailed paragraphs about past feuds or favorite colors, but damned at least let the newbs know who these people are!
That Hogan segment may have been the highest rated, that doesn’t make it good TV.
Measuring crowd reactions from a gymnasium to a stadium doesn’t exactly mean much.
And that punch to the nuts you referred to? Sure, short term, not as cool. Long term, looking at what it meant in the lore of WWF/E, it was damned cool.
The point is, TNA did nothing to keep that rating. They should be proud they got it, but if they really go for that primetime Monday spot regularly, they’re going to kill the company and quick.
So you’ll take a kick to the nuts over a 4+ star classic match? That, coupled with the notion that you can’t come up with something better to slander someone with than “numbnuts” and your notion that I said TNA was perfect which is far from the truth speaks volumes for WWE loyalists. And I thank you for it.
Oh and I wouldn’t go talking about the size of TNA’s arenas when the WWE is offering tickets to Smackdown at the Staples Center for 20 bucks, which is 2/3rds the price of a Los Angeles Kings ticket, a HOCKEY team that hasn’t made the playoffs in like 5 years.
Uh, that is more of the Kings fault then the WWE’s. It’s a rough economy for some out there. $20 tickets is a nice PR move by the company.
Yeah uhh… WWE may be selling discounted tickets… but uhhhhhh…….. they’re selling tickets. Not giving them away like TnA.
Actually it is by no means the Kings fault. They play 62 games a year in Staples center (as opposed to the WWE’s 3 shows tops), they sill tickets at a higher price, and almost all of their games sell out. Mistake by the Kings? Hell no.
And if you think WWE isn’t giving away tickets, open your eyes.
How do the Kings play 62 home games in an 84-game NHL season?
I meant to say 82 games, and that’s wrong too. The hockey season is 82 games so the home season would be 41 games.
Oh and back on the note of giveaways, WWE ran a campain for several months last year PAYING fans to watch the show. And you’re picking on ticket giveaways?
Just a quick note on 20 dollar tickets.. Ever take into account where those seats are at.. I’d say they are nosebleed section.. When the WWE comes to St. Louis that’s where the 20 dollar tickets are.. The good seats start at around 200 dollars a pop.. They do a good job of keeping it affordable for everyone.. TNA has cheap tickets also but the venue they play is much smaller.. Both shows have their highs and lows.. I’m a fan of both.. I enjoy watching all the wrestling I can get.. But TNA is long way away from being the number one show.. It seems like the writers have ADD and forget to follow through with the pushes that need to be continued.. Which can kill a show quickly.. If you don’t believe me just look at how many times they’ve built up an squashed Samoa Joe.. But on the flip side WWE does the over push which is just as annoying.. Having the Miz shoved down my throat week after week has me looking for a bottle of arsenic.. TNA has a huge opportunity to bring in new fans but as a current fan the dropped the ball on Monday night.. I’m hoping they can pick it up and keep competitive.. I enjoy the pure wrestling talent on their roster too much to lose them..
Yeah. when they came to my home town, they were selling 15 dollar tickets. Since I no longer find it possible to pay 60 bucks to sit in the front row, I was intrigued. I went online and those seats were in another zipcode. I’m afraid of heights so screw that shit.
BTW, Impact Sucked.
I don’t care about who is giving tickets away to their shows. No Smokachu, I was really just fucking with you as you seem to be taking this rant by some overweight internet columnist in Canada way too seriously, almost to the point where I’m starting to suspect you’re being paid by Total Non-Stop Action. Actually if you were, I could kind of understand the level of anger as you’re only defending the product you’d have worked hard on this past monday. But considering you’re just some really creepy sounding mark who decided to stay up in the wee hours of the night writing a ten paged diatribe to some guy who’ll never read your point of view, it’s just asking to be trolled. Get over it man, you’re not a shareholder of the company (I don’t think you are anyway… is Panda Energy public?) so sit down and relax. If you enjoyed the show, that’s great for you, but 75% of the people who watched it thought it was garbage. I know I sat down with an open mind at 8PM and by 8:05 I was chanting “This is bull****” right along with the crowd.
I don’t care about who is giving tickets away to their shows. No Smokachu, I was really just messing with you as you seem to be taking this rant by some overweight internet columnist in Canada way too seriously, almost to the point where I’m starting to suspect you’re being paid by Total Non-Stop Action. Actually if you were, I could kind of understand the level of anger as you’re only defending the product you’d have worked hard on this past monday. But considering you’re just some really creepy sounding mark who decided to stay up in the wee hours of the night writing a ten paged diatribe to some guy who’ll never read your point of view, it’s just asking to be trolled. Get over it man, you’re not a shareholder of the company (I don’t think you are anyway… is Panda Energy public?) so sit down and relax. If you enjoyed the show, that’s great for you, but 75% of the people who watched it thought it was garbage. I know I sat down with an open mind at 8PM and by 8:05 I was chanting “This is bull***t” right along with the crowd.
Actually, at the staples center the high priced tix for smackdown are 80 bucks. Same tickets for a Kings game is almost 200 bucks. Same tickets for a Lakers game is over a 500 buck, some seats over a grand per game, and are only available to season ticket holders.
As for taking things seriously look at my damn name. You think i take things seriously? Hell no. And I’m not defending TNA over WWE. I felt they had a better show this week but even if they didn’t, their show had merits, and that bears pointing out. The orignal article was downright scathing towards TNA, and coming from a guy who has shown bias towards WWE and against anything but WWE for the last, say, 15 years I felt like stepping up and saying something. If you don’t like it, tough. Don’t read it. Just because you were done with the show 10 minutes into it doesn’t mean 75% of the audience was. Nor does it mean 10%, 1%, or even one person agrees with you.
I find it laughable that you (or anyone else) would accuse me of being “biased” towards WWE when:
1) The only competition died 8 years ago and;
2) I haven’t watched RAW since 2006 and the product in general is so god-awful that it drove me to become more-or-less a fulltime MMA fan.
Impact was terrible and if accusing me of being biased towards a product I don’t even watch makes you feel better about enjoying TNA, then so be it.
SMOKACHU I CHOOSE YOU!!!!
^ Had to be done couldn’t resist
I’m new to TNA and just starting to watch WWE again .
WWE’s standard show was great for me to watch considering I’ve seen A lot of crap leading up to it.
TNA what can I say about it? Being new to it What I really truly hated about it was that they didn’t Show the whole match sometimes so they could further the storyline…Commercial breaks are bad enough but I can’t watch a match cuz you think I wanna See two guys I don’t know yet lying on the floor? No! The ODB match while good was short and ended with asscrack rollup It was a bad first impression That’s why it should slammed. But I’ll still watch it The young talent they actually showed has kinda grown on me. Oh well we’ll find out this week if tna gets better…
And You Scott Keith How dare you share your view about TNA’s show!!!
You Have Besmirched the reputation of TNA..
Besmirched I say!!
Apologize to Smokachu for not Holding back on Your Opinion of Total Nonstop Action.. Even though most of it was true..
Thanks Scott, had a flashback (in a good way) and thought I was on the old Wrestlemaniacs site. Good stuff. Best laugh I’ve had in awhile. If you’re coming down to Phoenix for Wrestlemania, I’ll buy.