KON on ‘e (CM Punk, Brock Lesnar, John Cena)
by Martin Shaw on May 1, 2012

I’ve been gone for a few weeks now due to funerals (yeah, multiple) and toothache. I’ve tried to keep up with what’s been going on, but a lot of my fellow columnists seem to be writing horrible stuff like Stone Cold Steve Austin Should Wrestle CM Punk at WrestleMania. 

Let me tell you why Punk and Austin should stay as far away from each other as humanly possible:

  1. Austin is old: He’s not like “mid-30′s, got a few years left in him” old, he’s 47. Why is this a problem? Cast your mind back to mid-’98 and think about how much WCW sucked because all of the big names were guys from decades gone-by. WWE may not have Hogan to fuck things up for everyone, but they have Hunter. They may not have Macho Man, Brutus, Virgil, Hacksaw or The Nasty Boys, but they do have Kane, Mark Henry,  Chris Jericho, Rey Mysterio, The Big Show, Booker T (who still has the odd match), Albert/Bernard/Tensai, Lesnar and (at some point) The Rock.
  2. Repetition: Jericho is doing the whole temptation thing right now, do you really want to see the same shit twice? Think about Punk’s character. Think about Austin’s character. Do you really think these two would be angry at each other just because one of them drinks and the other doesn’t? Punk is more than just the straight-edge guy now, so would turning him back into a one note, militant straight-edge guy not be a waste of a few years?
  3. Injuries: Austin’s neck, blah, blah, blah. Fuck his neck, it’s his knees I’m worried about. Austin’s metal knee-brace was ripping people up as far back as 2002. Assuming he can still run at this point, it will injure someone again.
  4. Punk’s spot: Punk has been with WWE for six years right now. He’s held the WWE Title twice, his current run having started back in October of 2011. Does “the best in the world” honestly need the “rub” from an established name?
Do you guys actually like CM Punk, or do you pretend to because you think you should?

Honestly, this whole “let’s have today’s wrestlers take on those from when wrestling was good” mindset is kinda why WWE is so shite at the moment. Cena has had more title runs than Ric Flair, but he’s apparently worthless against a guy who left WWE back in the day over money disputes? Fuck that. Cena was depicted as Superman for about five years, beating almost everyone on the roster. Even if you don’t like the guy’s character, you must be able to see that having him lose to someone who hadn’t wrestled in ten years did nothing to show or improve the strength of the current roster.

What else did I miss out on?

Oh, the big thing about lumberjack matches and whatnot between Blair, Steven Gepp, Wombat and a bunch of other commenters.

Lumberjack matches have always hurt the roster, even (or especially) when the ring isn’t surrounded by humans. While the Cena and Brock, erm, stand-off thingy wasn’t a lumberjack match, the same rules apply. Remember when the NWO consisted of about 823 lower-card guys and they’d run in to protect Hogan all the time? It’s the same kind of thing there, nobody ever came out looking good. Why hurt the roster by having them all run down for Brock and Cena? C.R.E.A.M.

Lesnar was never a wrestling guy. He was never good at promos, he was never great in the ring and he was never, ever, interested in anything other than money.  Lesnar has returned due to 5,000,000 of Vince’s crispest bank notes. If almost everyone on the roster is getting paid 1/20th of that, do you really think McMahon was going to say “Let’s approach this like we do with the rest of our guys”?

Ralph Hardin thinks religion should play a bigger part in wresting.

Ralph is wrong for a number of reasons. Here are the one’s I’d deem “fairly noteworthy”:

  1. A person (and therefore, a good character) has way more aspects to them than the fact that they praise a “higher power” (or several of them). As an Atheist, I really don’t want to watch a show where people are seen as good/evil based on religions views alone. If you look at the portrayal of homosexuals on television, their sexuality (or coming to terms with their sexuality) is always portrayed as a massive issue, as if all that character does from wake until sleep is worry about what other people think about where he puts his cock (or where she doesn’t let people put their cock). As Atheists are still seen as a minority, I’m sure their portrayal would be much the same.
  2. Any sort of religious favouritism in this day and age would be problematic. Having a Christian face beating wrestlers with other religious views would lead to all sorts of bad things that I’m sure Vince doesn’t want to get into (particularly if the face has blond hair and ends up beating several Jewish guys in the Elimination Chamber)
  3. Mythology is always more interesting than the people talking about it. The things a Priest/Minister/Vicar/Rabbi/etc. talks about are far more interesting than the Priest/Minister/Vicar/Rabbi/etc. alone.
  4. All the good “satanic” heels had some supernatural abilities & you can’t really do the same with preachers without accusations of blasphemy. TNA did a thing last year where The Pope would heal sick people. Needless to say,  it died on its arse. While I (and I alone) think having a Rabbi raise a Golem in order to capture the title would be fucking amazing, nobody would buy it.

Mike Gojira took an in-depth look at John Cena’s progression since joining the company.

This one made me think about the history of wrestling as a whole.

We hear about Ric Flair’s numerous championship runs, but rarely about him being a heel/face at the time, nor the tactics he used to win/keep the belt. Flair’s sixty minute matches were remarkable back in the day, but they too have been neglected. Hulk Hogan is little more than a mass of revisionist history, but he still reminds people of why Hulk Hogan is Hulk Hogan. One of the many problems with The Rock’s return is that the ratio of “hey, he’s an actor” to “look how good he was in the ring” montages was ridiculous. I guess the DVD sets get into more of the legacy of the wrestlers, but the type of fans who buy them already know.

In ten years time, when a teenager is reading up on John Cena via wikipedia, he’s not going to think of him as a dick who outstayed his welcome.

Weird, innit?

Kyle Fitta played TRUE or FALSE with Joe Violet.

Not WWE related, but I’m going to talk about it anyway.

I usually prefer facts in my True or False questions, but it does kind of turn into Kyle trying to tell Joe that he’s wrong about everything. Assuming Kyle isn’t planning on turning it into a more general wrestling knowledge based thing that the commenters could take part in (and have the answers posted at the beginning of the next column)(in fact, don’t, I might use that idea at some point), he should maybe rename it to KYLE VS… and get into an actual debate. They could’ve spent way more time discussing the merits of Garrett Bischoff (or lack thereof). Either way, it’ll be interesting to see how the format grows (assuming the writer doesn’t get let-go).

Kyle also tried to open a column with a line like “pulse has rules, but fuck them”. I’m pretty sure the only rule we have is “tag your shit”. I got a “welcome pack” when I signed up and it mentioned something about adding a guy called Matt on Facebook, but I don’t think that was mandatory.

Joel Leonard covered how painful those three-hour RAW shows can be.

Do you remember when Monday Nitro made the jump from one hour to two? They were so happy about it. Tony or Bischoff would thank the fans for staying tuned, fireworks would go off at the hour mark and cheerleaders would do whatever it is they do.

Do you remember when Monday Nitro made the jump to three hours? It was absolutely fucking gash.

Vince remembers neither of these things, which is a shame.

Chris Sanders talked a little bit about Beth being hurt and Kharma’s return (whenever it may be).

AJ Lee should get the title in order to get back into mah boy D-Bry’s good books.

Kharma should take as much time as she needs to deal with what’s happened. I’m sure she’ll wreck the roster at some point, but it’s still early days.

 

If I’ve missed anyone’s column out, it’s because they covered Cena/Punk/Brock and I didn’t think repeating myself over and over would make for a good read.

News

Chikara and ROH did a thing this past weekend that one or two of you (literally) may have watched. Shane Douglas did another ECW Reunion show and all reports mention levels of awfulness the likes of which have never been seen (excluding the last time Shane ran one of these shows, or any time Shane has wrestled in the last 15 years). Other than that? I dunno, it has been quite hard to figure out things that legitimately happened during my absence. I think we need to start filtering out the kayfabe from the real news. Real news = things like Bagwell’s situation. Kayfabe, well, how about I take some news posts from last week and run them through the filter?

Kayfabe: Former WWE Diva’s Champion Addresses Injury & Plans For The Title

News: Beth is still under contract.

Kayfabe: AJ Lee Snaps on Natalya, WWE.com Interviews Her Moments After the Fact

News: WWE shills for the internet marks* fans.

Kayfabe: Ted DiBiase, Jr. Visits Children’s Hospital, Prays with Family

News: WWE still do charity work.

Kayfabe:  WWE Cuts Two Minutes from Zack Ryder’s YouTube Show, Ryder Speaks Out

News: I guess maybe the “real news” is that Ryder’s show is made by WWE. I’m sure a lot of us knew this already, but you do see the odd comment/article about how Ryder got himself over because WWE wouldn’t and whatnot. I’m pretty sure the only “Superstar” related online thingy not ran or proofread by WWE is Goldust’s twitter account (@ and get blocked at your own risk).

Rarely do you see a site that just posts “Sid has broken his ankle”, “Arn retires due to neck injury” or “Goldberg is out because he cut his arm up on a car window”. Maybe that’s because this isn’t the 90′s, or maybe that’s why we have things like CB’s Slant below the news updates themselves. Still, a non-kayfabe version of the news might make for a good twitter or tumblr.

*I hate the terms “mark”, “smark” and whatnot. I think they exist just to diminish whatever levels of enjoyment we find in televised wrestling. Terms like that lead to people holding back their real opinion and just writing about whatever/whomever is popular at the moment. Fuck that. Say what needs to be said, but say it in a way that people can understand.

Swayze recently called James Alsop a “fucking idiot” over something related to pro-wrestling. That’s a good example of saying something the wrong way. While a lot of people might happen to agree with Swayze’s views on pro-wrestling (gotta take it easy here, Alsop is my editor)(hi, James!), the fact remains that pro-wrestling opinions are not a good measure of intelligence. Swayze could’ve just said “I disagree” and not came out looking like the bad guy in the eyes of James (and some others). On the other hand, (again) this is all pro-wrestling related, real bad guys are murderers, rapists and bankers (hi, Blair!).

“Hypocrite! You called out a bunch of Pulse writers during Flatlining

This is true.

The concept of that round-table was to show that we’re not a bunch of unreliable cynics. For the sake of what little integrity I had at the time, I simply couldn’t refute the allegation that some of the writers were unreliable. Not without doing more “politicking” than Hulk Hogan. “Integrity” might be a stretch, but I actually mean everything I say in these columns (and, by extension, the comments).

This has run way too long for a footnote.




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  • CB40

    I love the energy and the dialog on this KON, but you are 100% wrong about Punk-Austin.

    When Rock fought Hogan at Mania, were you against that too?

  • http://twitter.com/BlairADouglas Blair A. Douglas

    I’m glad your back. But after that banker remark, I’m cutting your funding.

  • James A

    Awesome column. (Hi, Martin!)

    I actually think you make a great point about Austin and Punk… everyone rattles on about how well their two gimmicks complement one another, but Punk’s done that story to death already as both a face and a heel in feuds with Jeff Hardy and Jericho. R-Truth, too, ages ago, if I remember rightly. If Austin and Punk were to feud, I’d like to see their rivalry based on something more personal, more substantial, than beverage preference.

    Disagree with you about Ryder, though: he genuinely did get himself over without WWE’s help. His YouTube show was his and his alone until very recently, when WWE bought it (actually bought it – WWE even paid off the guys who performed the show’s theme tune) and got Zack to start making the show for the company’s official YouTube channel. He now gets paid to make a show which he started just for kicks – although, as his current storyline suggests, he’s sacrificed some creative control over the show. Still, that makes Zack a winner in my book.

    And regarding the Swayze thing… It’s a non-issue. He disagrees with my opinions, but then he disagrees with a lot of things. Doesn’t seem to disagree with them enough to formulate an intelligent response, mind, but, dropping the f-bomb precludes any requirements to justify oneself. Obviously.

  • CB40

    I can’t wait for Swayze to respond to this ;)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kyle-Fitta/100002150061980 Kyle Fitta

    Joe or I post whether or not we believe something is true or false. Nothing about the column is about us agreeing or disagreeing. There’s no debating going on. As far as the “fuck pulse rules” thing, it was just a funny gimmick to sell the Extreme Rules column, poking fun of WWE’s gimmick PPV.

  • James A

    That thesaurus of his will surely take a battering. How long do you think he’ll be able to stretch out “fucking idiot”?

    “Fornicating fool”
    “Copulating codswallop-monger”
    “Shagging simpleton”
    “Sodding neanderthal”
    “Love-making buffoon”
    “Kama Sutra klutz”
    “Sexual-act silly-billy”

    He could even throw in a few words which combine the two!

    “Berk”
    “Twat”
    “Sod”

    The possibilities are LITERALLY endless. I’m sure it’ll be a scintillating read.

  • CB40

    NOW I REALLY CAN’T WAIT :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joe-Violet/38301149 Joe Violet

    It’s actually kind of funny, because I just send him my reply, then I don’t see his until the actual article is posted.

  • http://martyrshow.com/ KON

    I can’t be 100% wrong, CB.

    Is Austin not old and hurt?
    Has Punk not covered the ground already?
    Is Punk not a two-time WWE champion?
    Has Punk not been with WWE at this point for the same length of time as Austin had been when he “retired”?

    Rock v Austin happened after I stopped watching. While the match was good, The Rock certainly didn’t need the rub from Hogan at that point.

  • http://martyrshow.com/ KON

    Hence the line “…and get in to an actual debate.”

  • http://martyrshow.com/ KON

    That’s where I think these “roundtable” type things fall flat.

    They’d come across as more natural with a bit of back and forth (like in CB’s Taking Your Pulse series, or Mike And Kelly’s Smackdown Recap With An Incredibly Long Name).

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kyle-Fitta/100002150061980 Kyle Fitta

    I hence the line where you say I’m disagreeing with Joe when I’m not.

  • Kurtstevens

    couldn’t agree more. if this was the first thing someone read on pulse, id put strong money on the line saying they’d never read cb again cause a writer here said he writes horrible stuff like….and other writers telling others to fuck off….man this site is really unprofessional.

  • http://martyrshow.com/ KON

    If you can find a single line in my column that says “these columns have been poorly written” I’ll get Blair to send you all the Smurfs Blu-Ray monies I’m no longer receiving.

  • CB40

    I don’t think KON is saying that my writing is horrible, rather the concept of Austin vs. Punk is horrible to him.

    I can see how that could be misinterpreted, though.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kyle-Fitta/100002150061980 Kyle Fitta

    *double post*

  • http://martyrshow.com/ KON

    BINGO

  • CB40

    Are you saying that Punk and Austin couldn’t figure out a way to do a program together that is a different spin to the alcohol angle? Why would that have to be what they do?

    Also, Austin is old, hence this being a one-off final match. If he can do his own fight scenes in movies, he can do one more match in WWE.

  • http://martyrshow.com/ KON

    Because other than the alcohol thing, these two characters have so much in common that it would make much more sense for them to hang out together (just not at a bar).

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kyle-Fitta/100002150061980 Kyle Fitta

    Yeah, I actually agree with you there. They are so much alike but people find them so diverse, i.e both are rebels and douchebags. Plus, I believe WWE wants CM Punk to stay babyface because he’s reached that level where turning him heel would lose money, unless they want another face-face match with a Rock-Cena reaction because nobody is going to boo Austin.

    If they’re going to do something at Mania, I wouldn’t mind if Punk was having trouble with two guys because they kept out numbering him and then Austin made the save, setting up a tag match at Mania. It would also allow Austin to do less in the ring.

  • http://twitter.com/BlairADouglas Blair A. Douglas

    Exactly.

  • http://twitter.com/BlairADouglas Blair A. Douglas

    That money’s been spent. On Shaemus merchandise.

  • James A

    Perhaps he’ll go Shakespearean on me this time.

    “‘Tis wit that he lacks, viz the beast with two backs…”

    Needless to say it’ll be painfully witty. I’ll definitely be sorry for expressing my opinion.

  • Mike Gojira

    You forgot the word “obnoxious” as well.

  • http://twitter.com/BlairADouglas Blair A. Douglas

    I know who thisssss isssss…

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